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Winning Omaha/8 Poker
Product Type: Book
Product Price: $24.95
Manufacturer: Conjelco
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Description
A form of poker that continues to grow in popularity is Omaha eight-or-better high-low split, which is often abbreviated as "Omaha/8" in print. You’ll find an Omaha/8 game in virtually every cardroom--brick and mortar or on the Internet. Yet, Omaha/8 is widely misunderstood. As a result, better players stand to make a significant profit in the game. This book provides a much needed and useful tool for poker players interested in improving their game.
Reviews
Rating: 4 / 5
Date: 2008-07-11
Summary: "Starting in Omaha/8"
If you've read very many books on Hold'em you are probably familiar with Lou Krieger and his "Hold'em Excellence" books. Well, Krieger has done it again - this time with Omaha/8.
There are other books that cover Omaha/8, but none that I think do it quite as well for the inexperienced player. After reading Tenner and Krieger and putting their advice into action you'll probably want to check out Ray Zee and other authors of Omaha/8 books.
The book contains introductory chapters dealing with how Omaha/8 is played, basic elements of strategy and basic poker etiquette. Then a chapter introduces the basics of counting outs and calculating odds as needed in Omaha/8 with a table on page 72 giving percentage probability of hitting your hand for four to twenty outs. If the effort required for memorizing this table is a turnoff (it is for me) you'll find that you can accurately calculate the probability of hitting your card on the turn or river by multiplying the outs by four then subtracting the outs in excess of ten.
The next chapter discusses starting hands and I think this may be one of the most valuable sections of the book for many players. Most authors of hold'em books give an easy to remember list of starting hands, but most writers on Omaha/8 are more vague. This is probably in large part because of the number of possible hands in Omaha. Omaha/8 is a high-low game and the hands you want to play will be either high or low. Tenner and Krieger give a brief set of principle-based rules for starting hands that should make sense of the almost infinite possibilities.
Other chapters deal with playing on the flop, playing hands with two aces, playing from the blinds, kill pots, playing flops with a pair, bankroll requirements, playing online, and much more.
If you aspire to become a capable Omaha/8 player this book will get you off to a good start.
Rating: 5 / 5
Date: 2007-03-20
Summary: "Very good information"
After reading the book, I can see why I have a hard time winning in the on line games. Since I have read the book, I have been holding my own, but using the author's information on starting hands, I sure sit on the sidelines watching a lot of the action.
Rating: 3 / 5
Date: 2007-02-12
Summary: "Must buy if you play Omaha 8"
Little is published on this game, so if you are into omaha 8 you should buy it all. My main objection to this book is the writing style. I like a less conversational approach; 'just the facts' and if it's important put a star by it.
This book gives organized guidelines on flop play(page 106-107) that are quite helpful to a new player that wants specific advice, and any points of play considered important are emphasized.
I would be wary of reviewers that praise this book above all others. They tend to be new players. There are great insights in books by Zee, Cappelletti, Ciaffone, Slotboom, Brunson, etc. If advice contradicts try to reason out why and you'll probably become a better player.
For a new fixed limit player this is a good start but I would also get Zee's book. Also just go online and get what you can from websites.
Then get experience and be a nit. lol
Rating: 5 / 5
Date: 2006-01-27
Summary: "Outstanding book for novices!"
I am a novice at Omaha/8, so I write from that perspective. I have Zee's book and Cloutier's book. Neither of them come close to offering the material Tenner and Krieger present in "Winning Omaha 8" for the beginning player. I think Zee and Cloutier believe you already know this stuff; Tenner and Krieger make no such supposition and start from scratch.
I am one of those players (and a pretty good one) coming from Hold 'em to Omaha/8. Over and over and over, Tenner and Krieger tell me Omaha/8 is NOT Hold 'em, and give example after example. They tell me to often muck pocket aces. What? Muck pocket aces? Yeah right! So I go to Zee's book and find one sentence: muck weak pocket aces. Tenner and Krieger devote a whole chapter to properly playing aces. Guess which book is more informative to the novice. Ever so slowly it dawns on me just how good their advice is. Ever so slowly I go from being a big loser to a small winner at the tables.
Over and over and over, they say Omaha/8 is a game of scoops, not of splits. For at least a month I think they are crazy. Why would I not play the nut high straight even if I had to split the pot? But they say it so often, it gets in my head like a song you can't get rid of. And I go from being a small winner to a much bigger winner.
The book is packed with facts. It has to be read, underlined, reread, reunderlined. I recall the chapter on Playing the Flop. I remember praying to God to please let this chapter come to an end. And yet it is the best chapter in the book, even if it has to be practically memorized word for word.
One small criticism. While the book is most certainly complete enough for the novice (and the intermediate and maybe even the expert who writes the other review and pans the book), it is missing a few paragraphs. It fails to say anything about playing Pot Limit Omaha/8. Maybe the casinos don't spread Pot Limit Omaha/8, I don't know. But the Internet poker sites most certainly do big time! I would have wanted even a little advice on how to adjust playing the game to pot limit.
I think this is the first book I've given 5 stars. I wrote this review in answer to those who criticized it. Please don't buy it if you might end up at my table.
UPDATE: Two and a half years have gone by since I wrote this review. The problem I mentioned then has enlarged greatly, that is, at least online, (practically) ONLY pot limit Omaha/8 is played. A book not containing a large description of the pot limit game offers almost nothing to its readers. I would very strongly suggest the authors update this book. Otherwise I would no longer recommend it.
Rating: 5 / 5
Date: 2005-11-16
Summary: "Great Omaha8 book."
There is very little material out there on this game. If you follow Mark's advice you will win in the low to middle limit games. The style is tight and somewhat boring but it works.